The following interview was conducted by Suzi Weissman for her program "Beneath the Surface" on KPFK, February 11, 2011. Transcribed by Meleiza Figueroa. This interview was published in Against the Current 151, March-April 2011.
Suzi Weissman: I'm very pleased to have Yoav Peled join us right now to talk about the Israeli reaction to the events in Egypt, the relations between Egypt and Israel, and we're going to ask Yoav: Wither the Middle East after today's events? In what directions will the fresh air blowing from Tunisia and Egypt continue? And we're also going to talk to Yoav about "Post-Post Zionism," the title of Horit and Yoav Peled's latest article in the New Left Review, confronting the death of the two-state solution. Yoav is this year's Hans Speier Professor at the New School for Social Research; he's also a professor of political science at Tel Aviv University, and he's also just got a law degree from Tel Aviv University. So he's done a lot of things, he writes a lot about citizenship, his book "Being Israeli: the Dynamics of Multiple Citizenship" won many prizes, and his latest collection is "Democratic Citizenship and War." Yoav joins us from New York. Welcome to Beneath the Surface.
Yoav Peled: Hello, thank you.
SW: I'm very pleased to be with you today, and especially as this joy that spreads around after 18 days, in which we've seen a movement for democracy actually topple a dictator get, as you've probably heard, martial law lifted in Algeria and has dictators scrambling around the whole of the Middle East. So my first question to you is: what is the reaction in Israel?
YP: The reaction in Israel is very very nervous, naturally. Israel's good relations with Egypt were precisely with their dictator. So, to the extent that Egypt democratizes - and by the way, we still don't know to what extent this will happen - but to the extent this will happen, then Egypt will probably be less friendly to Israel. And by the way, I think the same holds for the US government - I'm sure the US government is also nervous, even though it has to say otherwise.